Comments on: Why Hip Hop? https://reformedforum.org/hip-hop/ Reformed Theological Resources Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:51:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: ctrace https://reformedforum.org/hip-hop/#comment-1551262 Tue, 08 Oct 2013 18:51:53 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=3005#comment-1551262 In reply to Nate.

I see what you are saying. I tend to have little patience for the most ground level worldly displays of fallen nature. Especially when there is so much in your face attitude and sense of power, and so much celebration of rebellion. God gives many over to their sins and hardens them. On the other hand, people have to do something in life, and if rap is your thing then doing it your way (evangelism) is definitely doing something.

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By: Nate https://reformedforum.org/hip-hop/#comment-1549703 Sun, 06 Oct 2013 09:53:01 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=3005#comment-1549703 In reply to ctrace.

Let’s grant everything you say, for the sake of argument. In that case, isn’t rap and rap culture a leading candidate for evangelism? Goodness – I couldn’t help but think while reading your comments here that you’d penned a wonderfully sober diagnosis of the state of man in sin. The primal, violence-prone arrogance characteristic of much rap, which you rightly point out, is no secret to anyone; but what’s disconcerting is that you look on it without a drop of Christian hope or sympathy. I think I should quote some Scripture here – Jesus shedding tears over the arrogance of Jerusalem, Phil 2, but quite honestly the entire gospel speaks against your attitude. In one sense, you’re perfect right – but you’re only half way there. Christ looked on this misery and it broke his heart; you have recoiled into your own form of chest-beating hubris. Don’t miss the boat on this one, buddy.

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By: ctrace https://reformedforum.org/hip-hop/#comment-1547003 Wed, 02 Oct 2013 19:21:09 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=3005#comment-1547003 There are various problems here. One is the attitude. You’re talking to him like he’s in some super class of cool humans. The whole hip hop persona goes against the broken, self-aware nature of Christians (ideally). The frankly silliness of it. As music the aesthetic low rentness of it, if I may put it that way. Christianity raises people. The only reason people listen to such low forms of music to begin with (music stripped of melody, harmony, too cool for such and only willing to indulge in a low, physical beat and in-your-face lyric) is because they don’t know any better, and also because they haven’t developed above it to any degree. You have to be in subjection to the lowest realms of worldliness to even think you like such sounds.

This type of music – rap, hip hop – is different from other forms of pop music. Notice it has far outstripped any kind of culturally normal life cycle that we see other forms of pop music go through? That shows there is more than entertainment going on with it. It is intended to intimidate, for instance. It polices it’s environment and pushes itself into new territory. “We’re here,” it is saying. And the ‘we’ of “we’re here” is some of the lowest manifestation of the Satanic trinity as it works itself through culture.

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