Comments on: A Place for Rapprochement? Barth, Bavinck, and Van Til on Prolegomena https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/ Reformed Theological Resources Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:31:08 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7 By: James J. Cassidy https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3271879 Mon, 20 Apr 2015 14:31:08 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3271879 In reply to Jim Cassidy.

Jim, I might add this. If you really want to understand VT’s read of Barth, read Bruce McCormack. McCormack disagree’s with VT’s conclusions about Barth, but he reads Barth in essentially the same way as did VT.

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By: Jim Cassidy https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3268080 Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:47:37 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3268080 In reply to Jim Lee.

Jim,

Yes, it is. In VT you will gain an understanding of Barth’s intellectual context, and connect conceptual dots. You will also see a deep structure read of Barth’s thought that is missed by most Anglo-American readers. You will need to be prepared for some vitriol. VT does not pull punches in his critique. That acidic approach has caused some to stumble at the entry point and prevented them from gaining the substance of the critique. Its unfortunate, really, because VT’s analysis is brilliant. So, eat the fruit and pitch the shell.

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By: Jim Cassidy https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3268077 Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:42:49 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3268077 Hermonta,

The scope of general revelation is extremely limited, that is what WCF I goes on to show. It is sufficient to render men without excuse, but it is not sufficient for giving man true knowledge (vera theologia). Special revelation is necessary, along with the illumination of the Holy Spirit (principium cognoscendi internum).

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By: Jim Lee https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3264738 Fri, 17 Apr 2015 03:36:45 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3264738 Would you say that Van Til’s assessment of Barth is still worth reading (and buying)?

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By: Hermonta Godwin https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3253940 Sat, 11 Apr 2015 02:45:56 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3253940 In reply to Jim Cassidy.

Why not?

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By: Jim Cassidy https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3247186 Tue, 07 Apr 2015 16:57:46 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3247186 In reply to Hermonta Godwin.

Hermonta,

No.

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By: Hermonta Godwin https://reformedforum.org/place-rapprochement-barth-bavinck-van-til-prolegomena/#comment-3240435 Thu, 02 Apr 2015 20:16:11 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4256#comment-3240435 If the Prolegomena begins with special revelation, then how do we interpret Westminster I.1a I. Although the light of nature, and the works of creation and providence do so far manifest the goodness, wisdom, and power of God, as to leave men unexcusable.

If general revelation is able to render men unexcusable, then isnt it possible (if not also proper) to start there instead of with special revelation?

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