Comments on: Trinitarian Personality http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc152/ Reformed Theological Resources Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:09:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: God Must Exist http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc152/#comment-47853 Sun, 10 Jul 2011 17:13:24 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=1467#comment-47853 […] http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/ctc152/ […]

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By: drake http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc152/#comment-30919 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:25:32 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=1467#comment-30919 I am in no way denying the simplicity as Farrell does but i think it is explained the best in Clark’s construction. Though Clark individuates the Son in his book with an economic property it is easily solved by saying that the Son thinks to himself, “I eternally generate from the Father”.

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By: drake http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc152/#comment-30918 Wed, 05 Jan 2011 02:23:59 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=1467#comment-30918 Augustine’s construction as a whole has problems. The problem is, Augustine begins with the essense and then the persons become mere relations in the essence. This is the primary problem with Augustine’s view. Appealing to Augustine will not save the Van Tillians from their heresy. Farrell says,

“So strong an influence is the definition of simplicity for Saint Augustine that he says, “to God it is not one thing to be, another to be a person, but it is absolutely the same thing . . . It is the same thing to Him to be as to be a person.”44 “God” for Saint Augustine, thus, “did not mean directly” the means to attempt to distinguish the persons from each other. Having assumed an absolute simplicity, the persons can no longer be absolute hypostases, but are merely relative terms to each other, thus occurring on an even lower plane than the attributes proper. “The terms (Father, Son and Holy Spirit) are used reciprocally and in relation to each other.”51 There is a subtle but, nevertheless, real play of the dialectic of oppositions here. One no longer begins with the three persons and then moves to consider their relations, but begins with their relative quality, the relation between the persons, itself. In other words, there is an artificial opposition of one person to the other two. It is at this point that the flexibility of Augustine’s Neoplatonic commitment begins to surface in a more acute form.

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By: Jim Cassidy http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc152/#comment-30761 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:51:24 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=1467#comment-30761 This is, of course, not original to Van Til. Augustine said it long ago as he speaks of “the person of the Trinity itself.” “On the Trinity,” p. 114.

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By: Mike http://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc152/#comment-30741 Sat, 11 Dec 2010 16:39:36 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=1467#comment-30741 Steve Ruble:

I answered one or your questions back on the “Formulating a Christian Epistemology” thread.

I look forward to continuing our conversation.

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