Comments on: Perspectives on the Sabbath

By: Reformed Forum

Reformed Forum — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 17:14:56 +0000

In reply to Baus. Thanks for the link. WTS Books updated their website, and many of this older links are broken. It's just too much for us to go back and update all of them.

By: Baus

Baus — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:35:20 +0000

I think the book link is broken. Try this one: http://www.wtsbooks.com/perspectives-on-the-sabbath-charles-arand-christopher-john-donato-9780805448214

On Calvin, be sure to check this out: http://honest2blog.blogspot.com/2010/03/bowling-for-calvin.html

I always appreciated this essay: http://www.opc.org/nh.html?article_id=161

By: Baus

Baus — Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:25:39 +0000

In reply to Kevin. Kevin, my understanding is that "there was evening, there was morning, the 'x' day" means assuming daylight/daytime to begin with, then evening comes, and then the day is over when the *next* morning comes.

By: Chris Donato

Chris Donato — Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:00:47 +0000

Been out of the loop for several weeks with a new job, but thanks again to you guys for the opportunity to do this interview.

Kevin, I’ve often wondered that myself, though I haven’t done the research about calendars, days, etc., and when “we” adopted them. I suspect that the further early Christianity moved from its Jewish roots, the further it moved away from this particular concept of day. I do think it’s safe to say that, especially among Jewish Christians in the first century (not least before AD 70), it wouldn’t be unusual to see a Christian family continue to take part in Saturday (synagogical) worship and then that evening, after sundown, hold vigil in remembrance of the risen Christ.

Of course, this could all be a figment of my imagination.

By: Kevin

Kevin — Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:02:50 +0000

Hello,

Great show. One question I have about the Sabbath is not whether or not we hold to a day of rest on Sunday, but why did we, Christians, change the meaning of the word “day?” God defines day as evening and morning (or Sundown to Sundown). We define it as Morning to Evening (sunrise to sundown), usually. Why isn’t the Christian Sabbath Saturday at sundown to Sunday at sundown. Afterall, that is what constitutes a day, in God’s definition. Also, what a statement that would make to the world if the “Christians” rested on the most “entertaining and worldly” night of the week, Saturday, and instead, rested, fellowshipped together, got a good nights rest, to be ready to worship God corporately. Just a thought.

I’ve just never heard an answer to why we changed “day.”

Thanks!
Kevin

By: Ian Hall

Ian Hall — Fri, 02 Sep 2011 04:49:23 +0000

You know it’s a good episode when Bucey says to Waddington ‘that’s fighting talk Jeff”

I suspect a ‘Perspectives on the Sabbath Part Two’ featuring Waddington & Blomberg would make for a lively and doubtless edifying programme.

By: Jeff Downs

Jeff Downs — Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:15:01 +0000

Rob, I would encourage you to listen to this lecture by Joseph Pipa. This lecture is part of a class taught at Greenville Seminary on Reformed Spirituality during the Spring semester. Blessings, Jeff Downs

By: Jonathan Brack

Jonathan Brack — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:59:14 +0000

In wider context …
Man was not made for the Sabbath but Sabbath for Man. Mark 2:27
I agree with you about no Sunday Sabbath, but instead a “Lord’s Day.”
We also need a robust understanding of tradition “So then, brothers, stand firm and hold to the traditions that you were taught by us, either by our spoken word or by our letter.” 2 Thes. 2:15

By: Rob Roy

Rob Roy — Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:28:22 +0000

There is no explicit reference in the NT to a Sunday “Sabbath.” Was it an early church tradition to gather on Sunday (probably Saturday night), after the Sabbath had come to an end? Of course. But Jesus warns us very clearly in Mark 7:13 (and elsewhere) about nullifying God’s commandments through manmade traditions:

“You leave the commandment of God and hold to the tradition of men.”

Does this or does this not describe Sunday Sabbatarianism.

By: Camden Bucey

Camden Bucey — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 16:10:31 +0000

You should hear the original recording.

By: Jason D.

Jason D. — Fri, 19 Aug 2011 10:25:38 +0000

Doesn’t sound like you cleaned up the audio very much 😀 but still enjoying the show 🙂