Comments on: Aspects of Presbyterian Government https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc278/ Reformed Theological Resources Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:20:33 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Jim Cassidy https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc278/#comment-1440799 Mon, 29 Apr 2013 15:20:33 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=2755#comment-1440799 In reply to Philip Larson.

Hi Philip, thanks for the question, its a good one!

In Presbyterianism, the power of the church resides not just in the special office of elder, but in the church as a whole. The church, the body of Christ, calls its own ministers and elects it own elders. But once those men are elected, the exercise of church power and authority is given to those in the special offices.

On the flip side, our book makes allowance for the people to request the Presbytery to dissolve the pastoral relation between itself and the pastor. In such a case, the Presbytery would hear from both the congregation and the pastor, and make a decision. This is a good way to go. I have seen pastors who were abusive to the sheep and needed to be removed. I have seen others who were attack by the sheep who wanted something other than the truth. In this way the Presbytery serves a third party arbitrator who seeks to get to the truth of the matter.

That is a long way of going about answering your question in the affirmative. There is an avenue for the congregation to make a no-confidence vote which the Presbytery must take seriously.

Does that make sense?

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By: Camden Bucey https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc278/#comment-1439804 Sat, 27 Apr 2013 20:35:12 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=2755#comment-1439804 In reply to Richard Lindberg.

Thanks for the correction. This is helpful.

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By: Philip Larson https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc278/#comment-1438870 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 15:17:08 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=2755#comment-1438870 Speaking not as a theologian on whether the congregation has governing rights:

Even civil dictators know that they cannot govern without the consent, and perhaps even positive approval of the populace. So while a congregation cannot depose a minister, might we say that they have a de facto vote of no-confidence that a presbytery would be foolish to ignore? (I’m presbyterian, or at least try to be!)

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By: Richard Lindberg https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc278/#comment-1438827 Fri, 26 Apr 2013 14:21:42 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=2755#comment-1438827 I’m enjoying this discussion, but I do have one correction to make. In the Episcopal Church, bishops do not move priests from one church to another as in the Roman Catholic and Methodist churches. Each parish calls their own priests/elders/pastors, with the approval of the diocesan bishop, who has to license that person for ministry in that diocese. A priest can be called from one congregation to another. Bishops can inhibit the ministry of a priest for cause.

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