Comments on: Confessional Subscription and the Animus Imponentis https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/ Reformed Theological Resources Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:27:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7 By: Robert Mossotti https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-3557274 Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:27:12 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-3557274 In reply to Camden Bucey.

Our Lord quoted the Old Testament thusly—“love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind and strength.” But the OT actually doesn’t say this exactly; Christ added the word “mind.” Why did he modify the OT injunction in this way for His disciples? Because He knew some of His disciples would—after the arrival of the Spirit who would initiate the period of inaugurated eschatology—dismiss the mental labor He expects, actually demands, all in the name of greater “Spirituality.” He knew His disciples of this epoch would need to hear this more than they would have “under the Law” (speaking in terms of historia salutis).

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By: RubeRad https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-2108839 Sun, 21 Sep 2014 22:43:31 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-2108839 I’d really like to get a citation into the minutes so I can look up this “24-hour day” thing. For instance, there is a scan of some version of the minutes online at archive.org, can it be found in there somewhere?

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By: Glen Clary https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1808573 Tue, 22 Jul 2014 22:46:40 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1808573 Thanks, Alan, for your work on this subject and on the creation report. I hope the report of the study committee on republication has the same pacifying effect that the creation report has had.

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By: Cris A. Dickason https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1770204 Sat, 12 Jul 2014 19:49:13 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1770204 In reply to Alan Pontier.

Alan Pontier;

Thanks for your additional comments. I too found the interview/discussion with Dr. Strange (the other Alan) beneficial. I’ve also listened to the Animus Conference recordings from a few years back. I certainly hope that within our circles (OPC) we can continue to discuss the exegetical and theological issues concerning creation with brotherly affection, as we continue to affirm God created all things of nothing by the word of his power.

-=Cris=-
Ruling Elder, Trinity Church, Hatboro
We meet at the Wheaton GA (or maybe the anniversary GA in MD)

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By: Alan Pontier https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1736810 Mon, 23 Jun 2014 21:26:05 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1736810 Just listened to this podcast and was reminded of what a pleasure it was to work with Alan Strange on the committee. I agree with just about everything that he said in the interview. I think especially important is his closing comment (beginning at about 59:50) that the report was not meant to end the debate over creation days. We all recognized that the General Assembly that erected the committee did not give us a mandate to solve the issue. The operative words in the mandate were: “assist the church…” I still believe we fulfilled that mandate even though some thought the report should have taken a position on the length of the days and others wrongly believe that the report ended the debate. The debate continues but, I hope, in a more orderly manner.

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By: Justin Andrusk https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1735247 Fri, 20 Jun 2014 02:26:45 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1735247 In reply to Benjamin P. Glaser.

If you take 21.5 and cross-reference it to 1.2 along with applying the Regulative Principle for Worship, there really is no option, but Exclusive Psalmody. Man-made hymns are not inspired and to sing them as a part of worship is a violation of both 21.5 and 1.2.

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By: Michael https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1733509 Sun, 15 Jun 2014 14:11:38 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1733509 In reply to Camden Bucey.

When I say academic I don’t refer to biblical doctrine. I see biblical doctrine as armor of God. I refer I suppose to a philosophical and theoretical distancing of oneself from the practical level of the faith.

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By: Benjamin P. Glaser https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1733038 Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:52:51 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1733038 The discussion on WCF 21.5 was very interesting.

For information the Associate Reformed Presbyterian Church has an “explanatory note” on 21.5 that says, basically, that the ARP believes that 21.5, originally understood, requires EP and therefore the ARP has “modified” 21.5 to teach Psalms and man-made hymns.

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By: Camden Bucey https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1733037 Sat, 14 Jun 2014 15:37:37 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1733037 In reply to Michael.

Michael,

It doesn’t have to be an either/or. How are we to engage in Spiritual warfare without knowing what we believe and how that fits (or doesn’t) with the beliefs of our church? Paul teaches that many false teachers are in our midst. There are wolves seeking to devour the sheep. Part of the church’s responsibility is to maintain the purity of doctrine among its teachers. The animus imponentis is a critical element to understanding what it means to subscribe to a confession. It helps us ascertain whether our beliefs and the beliefs of others are within the bounds of our ecclesiastical body. That is absolutely and directly applicable to our spiritual warfare.

Best,

Camden

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By: Jeff Downs https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1732945 Sat, 14 Jun 2014 11:11:53 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1732945 Actually, this is quite an important discussion.

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By: Michael https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1732833 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 23:17:49 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1732833 In reply to Jeff Wiebe.

By any definition, what was happening on this show was not serious.

The knee jerk response from academics is a charge of anti-intellectualism. Got it. The political left does the same.

Then ironically the same academic-oriented Christians refuse to accept anything resembling terminal knowledge of the faith, choosing to be always learning, never able (or willing) to come to understanding.

I.e., I’ve encountered hard core Reformation era Reformed, Calvinist doctrine. OK. Hey, let’s see what Karl Barth was talking about over there… Why do I have to be so stuck in this orthodox stuff…

Get somebody on who can talk about being awake and loving your enemy, and doing it in a non-shallow, pious, pacifist way. Somebody who understands the doctrine as it’s carried out on the spiritual battlefield. Everyday. Myriad other examples.

What the newly-minted PhDs were talking about was not serious.

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By: CM https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1732740 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 15:02:50 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1732740 Been waiting for Dr. Strange to be on the show for a long time. Bravo!

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By: Jeff Wiebe https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1732733 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:40:07 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1732733 Respectfully, ‘we’ are integrated beings made in the image of God, which includes the ability to know by experience (empirical knowledge), testimony (including revelation), and inference (reasoning from the first two means of knowlege.) History is hopefully an account of how those who have gone before us have taken their own exposure to experience/empiricism and testimony, developed inferences under the Holy Spirit’s guidance, subject to Scripture, and written it down. This then becomes testimony for us, which we combine with our own experience and in turn make inferences from.

The reason I lay all this out is that it is in this very context that we *do* ‘spiritual warfare’, and in which we ‘test the spirits’, ‘examine the Scriptures every day to see if what X says is true’ (a la Berea) and ‘keep in step with the Spirit’. An academic approach to the faith is not illegitimate or farther removed from sincere heart-piety than the simplest farmhand’s wordless praise to the Lord as s/he sees the sunrise over a bountiful field of crops. We all speculate and need to continually seek and submit the Word and Spirit to discipline and guide our speculations, whether they are sophisticated and based on PhD level learning or on accumulated and quasi-instinctual experience. Jesus Christ is the Lord of his servants, and he has made some with gifts for mechanics and others with gifts for metaphysics. Let’s not dismiss either, nor the folks in between.

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By: Tyler https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1732727 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 12:31:33 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1732727 In reply to Michael.

“speculations”/”arguments” (2 Cor. 10:5)

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By: Michael https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/ctc337/#comment-1732604 Fri, 13 Jun 2014 06:46:41 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?post_type=podcast&p=3656#comment-1732604 I guess shows like this are what is called the academic approach to the faith. I prefer the spiritual warfare approach. We live in a spiritual landscape, on a spiritual battlefield.

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