Comments on: A Divine and Supernatural Light https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/eoe24/ Reformed Theological Resources Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:35:21 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Baus https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/eoe24/#comment-3352314 Sun, 21 Jun 2015 12:35:21 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4364#comment-3352314 In reply to Baus.

Bruce, I see.
And what about there being competing versions of Christianity makes it impossible to know which (if any) is true?

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By: Bruce Sanders https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/eoe24/#comment-3350155 Tue, 16 Jun 2015 13:25:27 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4364#comment-3350155 In reply to Baus.

Baus:

By lifting “it unfortunately is impossible to know truth” out of the context you made it into an absolute statement and pointed out a seeming contradiction.

The statement was not made as an absolute statement, but as a relative one: the presence of multiple competing versions of Christianity, each claiming Holy Spirit confirmed truth, yet each contradicting the others, makes it impossible to know / discern / judge which one, if any, is true.

Within the context, in my opinion, this is a true statement.

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By: Baus https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/eoe24/#comment-3349389 Mon, 15 Jun 2015 15:05:05 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4364#comment-3349389 In reply to Bruce Sanders.

“it unfortunately is impossible to know truth”

But, you can’t really know such a thing to be true, can you, Bruce? Is it really necessary to point out your self-contradiction?

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By: Bruce Sanders https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/eoe24/#comment-3344851 Tue, 09 Jun 2015 04:38:10 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4364#comment-3344851 Your statements about the illuminating light of the Holy Spirit regarding biblical truth sounded wonderful … but then I remembered all the contradictions I have heard and read from various Christians who each had cried out to the Lord for truth and discernment before preaching what they believed the Lord had taught them.

With the tens of thousands of versions of Christianity in the world today, some of whom claim their truth is the only truth unto salvation, it unfortunately is impossible to know truth; even with the claim of Holy Spirit revelation.

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By: Baus https://reformedforum.org/podcasts/eoe24/#comment-3343927 Sun, 07 Jun 2015 20:37:21 +0000 http://reformedforum.wpengine.com/?p=4364#comment-3343927 Consider Piper’s comments in Chapter 5 here:
http://cdn.desiringgod.org/website_uploads/documents/books/god-is-the-gospel–2.pdf#71

He’s talking about Calvin and Edwards on “internal testimony of the Holy Spirit”… and this indeed provides a foundation for Christian epistemology, regeneration, and illumination.

I’ve bugged Jared Oliphint about this before (he hasn’t responded), but you guys (and/or Jared) really ought to consider how this has been developed by Roy Clouser.

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