Comments on: The Two Popes, Rahner, and Divine Immutability https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/ Reformed Theological Resources Sat, 01 Feb 2020 17:50:38 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.2 By: Randy Snyder https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3602428 Sat, 01 Feb 2020 17:50:38 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3602428 Thanks for this Camden. We have been discussing this on the Puritanboard a bit in relation to ESS and Complimentarianism. This is a hard topic but a very important discussion that has had much confusion thrown into it from some we have to deal with in our camps. I really appreciate your spot on reflection and well defined parameters.

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By: DANA CASTALDO https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600134 Thu, 16 Jan 2020 21:26:26 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600134 In reply to Adam A York.

ha, yes… Lee Irons! Thank you Adam York.

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By: Adam A York https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600126 Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:40:38 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600126 Dana Castaldo, you must mean Lee Irons.

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By: Dana Castaldo https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600060 Thu, 16 Jan 2020 03:46:18 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600060 In reply to Camden Bucey.

I was going to make this same observation about Turretin. J.V. Fesko has a great little article on his “upper register” page… that is, the difference between Calvin and Turretin concerning Trinitarian formulations.
Also, Chad Van Dixhoorn has a superb chapter in the book “retrieving the doctrine of eternal generation” where he outlines the historical theological debate on this very topic in the Westminster Assembly.

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By: Camden Bucey https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600055 Thu, 16 Jan 2020 02:07:51 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600055 In reply to James Duguid.

James, thanks for the sources. I’ll review Turretin on this. Much appreciated!

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By: James Duguid https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600038 Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:55:56 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600038 In reply to James Duguid.

Oh also, this is not just the “Eastern tradition” – Lombard works along the same lines, see Sentences Distinction 18.

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By: James Duguid https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600037 Wed, 15 Jan 2020 22:37:52 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600037 It is within the bounds of Reformed theology to affirm communication of essence. Turretin affirmed both communication of essence (Institutes of Elenctic Theology Topic 3, Question 29.4) and autotheos (Institutes of Elenctic Theology Topic 3, Question 28.40. I prefer Turretin here because rightly understood, the traditional language of communication of essence does not lead to the conclusions of some of Calvin’s heretical contemporaries, and he overreacted in jettisoning traditional vocabulary just because they twisted it. Turretin understands the details of doctrine of God better than Calvin does.

Loved the article though! Wonderful explanation of the implications of the fact that the persons are the essence – I hope “some theologians” give up on the attempt to locate real change in the persons – after all, one of the anathemas of Nicaea is against those who say that the Son is mutable!

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By: Adam A York https://reformedforum.org/the-two-popes-rahner-and-divine-immutability/#comment-3600025 Wed, 15 Jan 2020 20:34:10 +0000 http://reformedforum.org/?p=25110#comment-3600025 Having just watched the movie myself, I really enjoyed the post! This is very timely regarding current discussions taking place in the church. Thanks!

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